From there, they continued on to Bodahl’s hidden gem, a cabin on the outskirts of Drammen, where the interview took place.

The setting felt appropriate: a conversation about resilience and self-sufficiency, held somewhere shaped by both. Few topics are as charged right now as electricity, how to produce it, store it, and secure it, as countries increasingly prioritize their own supply, debate the balance between renewable, green, and traditional energy sources, and face rising consumption driven by AI.

Over the course of their conversation, Jensen and Bodahl explored all of it: the technology behind it, the geopolitics shaping it, and what true energy resilience will require going forward.